Monstercat shut down Planet Monstercat (among others) | Forum

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Maklarr4000
Maklarr4000 Jul 26 '17
So, Music giant Monstercat has since it's inception had a rather liberal approach to spreading it's music. For a rather modest fee, you can gain access to use their music however the hell you want- a pretty smooth system that has gained both the label and their artists more fans and recognition, while at the same time garnering a significant amount of trust and respect from the "family" of creators Monstercat seemed intent on building.

Going back in some cases to 3 years ago, a number of channels were created on YouTube where the channel would take the old Monstercat songs, and either update the visualizer on the video to reflect the current generation, or act as a throwback to an older version of Monstercat's layout. It was purely cosmetic, and more of a novelty than anything. Another channel that came about was "Planet Monstercat", a network that posted the tracks that were available through Monstercat's license, but that Monstercat themselves hadn't posted themselves. This was a tremendous service, as it offered much more of the artists' music to the public- how can they buy it if they don't know it exists?

However, as of today, Monstercat's legal team went after the visualizer channels, the subtitle channels (Spanish, Russian, Portuguese, Italian, French, and German channels for sure), and finally Planet Monstercat, shuttering them all rather quietly, hoping no one would notice.

Well, not totally quietly. Some people have noticed these channels are gone. People like me, who have websites like this one.

I think it's disgusting that a brand that has built it's foundation on a message of openness and inclusiveness would go after channels that garner, at most, a few hundred views based on media they PAID FOR. Perhaps the brand should be renamed to "Mobstercat" to tie into it's new mafia-like elements. Though it probably wouldn't make sense to invest that way- if Monstercat is trying to save the bottom line by killing a few diminutive channels, they're probably too far gone to save, let alone warrant saving.

So, Monstercat... you can delete my YouTube comments... what are you going to do about me posting my opinions on my own website? Shoot me an email anytime, I'll be here.
Jasper
Jasper Jul 27 '17
You fighting with monstercat?
Maklarr4000
Maklarr4000 Jul 27 '17
Hey, it's getting good now. The owner(?) of Monstercat Mike Darlington came out to talk about Monstercat's latest move to get a whole battery of YouTube channels shuttered without warning. You can read it HERE, or it goes like this:

"We understand the concerns raised with recent developments and want to provide as much info as possible (that we are currently able to provide).

As of June 20, 2017 Monstercat received its Trademark for the term “Monstercat” and the Monstercat logo. As stated in this thread, Trademarks can be limited or revoked when we do not uphold them. In this case, a situation arose on YouTube that lead to an “all or nothing” case where we could not uphold our trademark in one situation while ignoring the rest.

What might seem like a big bad company taking on the little guys is more a situation of a team (us) who cares deeply about our artists, our music, our brand and the fans who enjoy it. There are times when we have to stand firm, no matter how it is perceived. And in this case, with a broadened understanding of our actions, we hope you perceive it to be a logical and fair step.

Our regret and a sincere apology that this came in such a sudden manner. We did not expect action from YouTube to have been so immediate, not giving us a chance to provide much warning to the channels. If we had a chance to go back, we would have personally e-mailed each channel to give them prior warning that this would be occurring.

We want to stand by the fact that we do not have an issue with channels posting our music using their own brand (non monetized). If anything, we encourage it!

We’re a family, and that means we discuss, debate, and converse in a healthy way. If you have anything to add to the subject, please let us know in the comments of this thread.

P.S. If any of the channel owners want to personally hit me up on Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/MikeDarlington we can discuss any options that maintain our trademark protection while still allowing you to run your own non-Monstercat branded promotional channels"


So, to recap as I understand it, Monstercat is embroiled in some sort of copyright scrape elsewhere, and whoever they are suing (or being sued by) used YouTube channels as examples of voided trademark use to try and weasel out of whatever suit was going forward. Or perhaps it was a pre-emptive strike in the event one of these channels would ever be used like that. We'll never know for sure I imagine. At any rate, Mike had YouTube throw the switch on a whole mess of people, and now is crying "I didn't know!" on Reddit. So, either he's a moron who's been living under a rock in regards to YouTube's heavy-handed copyright policies, or he knows full well what he did and figures playing dumb to the system will get about a third of his "family" off his back, or attacking YouTube. I'm not sure which scenario is worse to be honest.

So, what do I take from this? Well, Monstercat is either bungling to a degree that would make Sears wince, or they've finally turned the corner from cool indie label to corporate machine that will do anything, even the illogical or unreasonable, for yet another dollar. Whatever the case, the trust of a lot of people is shattered, between 8 and 40 people have lost accounts or access to YouTube, and all in all I'm salty about it.

I won't lie, I really liked Monstercat. I liked Monstercat for a very long time. I never thought things could end up like this.

Maklarr4000
Maklarr4000 Jul 27 '17

Quote from Jasper You fighting with monstercat?



...maybe...
Jasper
Jasper Jul 28 '17
Quote from Maklarr4000
Quote from Jasper You fighting with monstercat?



...maybe...
Lol
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